My personal one was a couple months ago.
2 people at the table (2/5/10) decided to flip blind for their stacks and the entire table agreed to fold.
The two players were UTG ($2900) and CO ($700). UTG jams immediately and then UTG+1 ($4000) looks at his cards and calls after previously having agreed to fold. UTG player is going ballistic and pissed. Everyone else folds and CO now folds since the original flip is out the window. UTG+1 ends up winning w ace high as he had AQss and UTG cusses him out for about a minute before leaving.
Entire table is in shock and we voiced our disdain for the player until he left about an hour later. I think what makes it worse is that the UTG player had agreed to flip seemingly since he was only risking $700 as that was the CO stack and was up on the night. Floor wasn’t even called but I’m sure they would have upheld the hand.
Several redditors responded and gave their own stories:
— It is scummy to agree to fold then call off.
It is silly asking 7 people to fold their hand just so you can flip.
It is moronic to expect 7 randoms to fold so you can flip.
— When two players want to flip and everyone else agrees we usually convince the dealer to just not deal anyone in that isn’t involved. The dealer might protest and say she cannot do it, but if everyone agrees to sit out/ take a break, the only active players are the people doing the flip. It’s cleaner that way and we can continue the game normally right after the hand.
— In flip situations it is very easy to protect yourself. The first player makes a standard raise and the second player responds with a minimum 3-bet. If everyone else has folded, the all-in and call are announced. I have seen a lot of this kind of garbage in casinos. Defend yourself, there are no friends at the table.
— How to protect yourself:
- Raise to normal raise size THEN have other player min raise to ensure it’s just you two. Then jam and call.
- Seen this shit too many times over the years.
- Protect yourself at the table folks. No one is your friend.
— The author agreed – You are of course right, but I should add that this was a very friendly table and these guys all knew each other well so it wasn’t necessarily like they were randoms. I will also add that I’ve been back to this game a couple time and the same UTG+1 player has been there and since the community of 2/5 players is so small in this area they all remember that he did this. So it adds another layer of if it was worth it to pull this move since it tarnished his image.
— Do you happen to play at California Grand?
— Holy s*** yea, u know the hand I’m talking about??!
— Its a local horror story lol.
I played there about a day after said hand happened, and everyone was shitting on the dude. Nice to know they're still shitting on him lol.
— I was there for work for about 6 weeks so I played a bunch there but haven’t been back in a while. That’s insane that it’s still remembered there since it was like 5-6 months ago. UTG+1 definitely ruined his reputation at California Grand.
— Two guys wanna flip and whole table agrees to fold next hand.
They go all in and lo and behold BB wakes up with AA and calls.
AA lost to both T3o and J8 after board ran out J984Q
AA guy had the nerve to ask for his $ back afterward because he “didn’t understand” he should have folded.
— lmao being greedy backfires. This remind me of a story a guy was telling at 1/3. He was trying to make everyone do an artificial bomb pot. He told everyone to not look at their cards preflop and just put in $15 and everyone agreed. Some dude woke up with Aces and jams for like $140. The guy trying to start the artificial bomb pot was pissed and called with a garbage hand like 83o then cracked Aces.
— Of course I lied! This is poker, Phil.
One user recalled the famous argument between Tony G and Phil Hellmuth on The Big Game.
Tony pretended not to see his cards. The innocent Phil believed him and went all-in with AJ, but was quickly called with AK.
— So you lied? — Phil was annoyed.
— Of course I lied! This is poker, Phil.
— This is very bad. You can't say you're playing blind when you've seen your cards.
— Do you take me for a child? I'm a poker player! This is a poker show and I'm destroying you in every aspect of the game.
— Misreg in tank as kid bets full pot on the river, Misreg's scumback friend walks behind the table, behind misreg and yells "call!". Kid tables his hand (second nutts) misreg folds.
—The floor should have been called in this situation. The friend should have been asked to leave and not return for the day.
— Guy calls my all-in on the river. I table the winner and have him covered. Villain freezes. When asked by the dealer to slide his chips forward he refuses and claims he was tricked. Everyone at the table is confused. Floor is called. Villain repeats that he was tricked without any further explanation and asks what his options are. Floor says he can either pay off his call, or cash out and be banned from the poker room. He cashes out. Never saw him again.
— This is insane. I once asked a dealer what happens if someone refuses to honor an all in and just leaves and ur story is basically what he told me. You can cash out but you’re banned for life.
— Depends on the state, but in Florida, a dealer can not touch player's chips which have not been placed across the betting line by the player. Basically, the dealer can't reach into a player's stack. The lesson here is for the Hero to ask the dealer to square the pot before you table your hand. This isn't always practical or necessary, but if you have ANY inclination that your opponent may not follow through on their call, then stop and have the dealer square the pot first.
— The ol’ hide the hundred dollar chip under the stack of reds. Only had to learn that lesson once.
— I see this like 5x a week lol.
— Saw another player find out the hard way that people will say anything to win the pot.
Basically board is 9AK49
Player A bet, Player B jams, Player A tanks, Player B says he promises he doesn't have a 9 here and he swears on his mom's and daughters life.
Player A calls and Player B heavy sighs, slowrolls and laughs at A and says yeah I lied, I have the 9.
— In our game, there was a guy who was always short of chips when he placed bets. For example, he would announce a $200 bet and throw in a $100 chip and 18 $5 chips. The most interesting thing was that the dealer would recalculate his bets every time and ask him to hand over the chips, but he would still do it.
— A known angler in my area accidentally got dealt 5 cards in PLO4 and he tried to hide the 5th card at show down in a big pot where he had quads.
— You say he tried to hide them, I suppose he got caught, how did that happen? what was the floor ruling?
— From my recollection, he turned over 4 cards and tried to hide the 5th under when it came time to muck. Someone saw it and security confirmed what happened. His hand was killed and he got a 30 day ban.
— The worst I've seen was admittedly, me. I convinced 2 people I didn't have Aces, and both called my all in.
Guess what, I had Aces.
Here's an extra story from one of our editors and founders, Ilya Gorodetsky:
— Unfortunately, or fortunately for this article, I have seen many examples of absolute meanness at the poker tables. Perhaps the most unpleasant story occurred at the GipsyTeam Live series we held in Cyprus.
In principle, the situation was completely normal. A Turkish player bets on the river, gets paid, and proves by his appearance that he was bluffing. He moves his cards towards the dealer. His opponent, an expressive young man from England, apparently called away from having the nuts and threw his cards into the muck to celebrate. Here the Turk grabs his cards at lightning speed, because they had not yet touched the muck. And the dealer had not yet picked them up. The Turk naturally demanded that he be given the pot because he was the only player left with cards on the table. Naturally, the tournament director could do nothing in such a situation. The little hustler won.
For us, as organizers, there would be nothing terrible in this story; the Englishman made a mistake and took the bait. But the problem is that this Turkish scammer turned out to be the brother of our partner in the organization of the tournament, Michael Peltecki, Robert. This is one of the most dishonest people I have ever encountered in poker. The situation was extremely unpleasant for us, because it turned out that our partner had such a brother. It was very unpleasant and disgusting.